PODCAST: Learning How to See with Brian McLaren — Episode: “Find the Flow” (feat. Jacque Lewis)

PODCAST: Learning How to See with Brian McLaren — Episode: “Find the Flow” (feat. Jacque Lewis)

What would it mean for us if we happened to live during the decline of the old humanity when a new humanity is in the painful, fragile process of being born? What if some of us are in the process of trying to resuscitate the old, while others of us are conceiving, gestating and giving birth to the new? What if the growth of the new movement, the new humanity, the new social creation or construction depends on the old one losing its hegemony? As I write those words, I can’t help but feel a flood of resonances with the Hebrew scriptures. I feel echoes of Isaiah speaking of God doing a new thing. Something fresh springing forth so that there will be good news for the poor, recovery of sight for the blind, freedom for the incarcerated and oppressed. Oppression of the poor is one of the hallmarks of the old humanity.

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“Faith after Doubt” by Brian McLaren — a Nomad Podcast Interview with Brian McLaren and Book Notes by Sam Radford
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“Faith after Doubt” by Brian McLaren — a Nomad Podcast Interview with Brian McLaren and Book Notes by Sam Radford

I’ve been reading books by Brian McLaren for coming up to twenty years. He is someone whose faith journey is several steps ahead of mine and, as such, he’s been a mentor from afar to me.

His latest book, Faith after Doubt, is my favourite of his books to date.

=It captures the journey I’ve been on for the last twenty years as well as providing vision and encouragement for the years ahead.

The book offers a map for where I’ve come from. He shares language and frameworks that give definition to the steps I’ve been taking these last two decades.

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“Brian McLaren says there’s a good reason your beliefs stopped working” by Jana Riess
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“Brian McLaren says there’s a good reason your beliefs stopped working” by Jana Riess

Please walk us through the four stages of faith and doubt as you outline them in the book, starting with Stage 1.

I think we are all inducted into Stage 1, or Simplicity, in our childhood. This is the stage of simple dualisms: us/them, in/out, right/wrong, strange/familiar, safe/dangerous. Because we’re children and there’s a lot we don’t know, we need authority figures to tell us what’s safe. This is a natural and healthy stage for us as children.

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